mattl 18 hours ago

Seems a little misleading of them to say the iPhone won’t have seven years of security updates when that’s standard for iPhones but hasn’t been the case for most Android phones.

  • Jtsummers 18 hours ago

    Right. The difference is that Apple has provided 7 years of security updates, but not pledged it. Google has pledged it, but not yet provided it.

    So they're asking you to trust that their pinky promise means something this time and to ignore the actual performance of their competitor.

    • youngtaff 17 hours ago

      I’ve got a Pixel 4a… released August 2020, discontinued in Jan 2022 and updates stopped in Aug 2023

      Perfectly good phone but Google just abandoned it why would I ever buy another phone from them again

      • Jtsummers 16 hours ago

        Right, no history of executing on this pinky promise.

        And Apple has actually done better than 7 years of security updates (which is all Google is promising), they're approaching 7 years of OS support (though not every feature, for instance Apple AI does not work on older phones, which for me is a good thing because I'm tired of LLM nonsense). Someone put this table together:

        https://iosref.com/ios

        Devices sold in 2018 with iOS 12 are now on iOS 18, they've received 7 versions of iOS and all the security updates that come with them. And iOS 18 will get security updates for several more years so a decade of security updates is likely for those devices.

        • youngtaff 4 hours ago

          Apple even does surprising things on this front…

          From memory they released a security update the last supported OS on the 5c two years after they stopped supporting it (guess it was a pretty big security hole)

      • nicbou 5 hours ago

        Wasn't there a recent recall of 4a phones that had their battery life killed by an update? My friend could barely keep his on for an hour.

        My Pixel 5 also turned into a broken mess in its last year. It was as if I had a completely different phone. I was hoping to keep it for at least two more years but the battery became really bad and the OS became super buggy.

    • mattl 17 hours ago

      Most of the rest of the comparisons seem to be “well it doesn’t do all of this Google specific AI stuff”

      No mention given of course to all the Apple-ecosystem stuff it can’t do either.

      I wouldn’t trust Apple to give me a comparison either but I do wonder who these things are targeted at.

      I’m not sure most people with an iPhone won’t just buy another iPhone for their next phone and vice versa.

java-man 18 hours ago

   Does not connect with Google apps
That's a good feature, I think.
lawlessone 17 hours ago

ok... now compare the google phone to Android phones from other manufacturers..

Magma7404 18 hours ago

Phone wars were always stupid, and Google is starting again. That has never been a good point for those who do this. They should drop the comparison with AI features and make a new page where they compare iOS with GrapheneOS.